Seventeen has gone downhill since giving up on the 'fresh young' concept?

Pann: Has Seventeen given up on being public-friendly?

(OP criticizes Seventeen's recent title tracks)

1. [+144, -4] Most of their core fandom has left since Home and Hit. It's no wonder their digitals keep declining with their core fandom gone. The reason why Seventeen became popular in the first place was because of their fresh young concept. They were #1 in terms of that fresh young concept, that's how they built their core fandom. Since this year, they gave up on public-friendliness and started focusing on the music they wanted to pursue. I think the members did give up on being public-friendly.

2. [+134, -4] I felt the decrease in their fandom power during Home and Hit ㅋㅋ A lot of fans were already starting to leave because of Produce 101 but Pledis still didn't wake up and did Japanese concerts and gave baits every 2 weeks. If they cared about domestic fans and kept up with their fresh young concept, they wouldn't have hit the bottom like this. What can you do when you can feel the hype is gone? If they wanted to win a daesang, they should've focused on public-friendliness and came back with another fresh young concept. They keep talking about wanting to win a daesang but the songs they release is the type of music they want, not the hype of music the public wants. They should give up on digital sales now. If their next song is also difficult and non-public-friendly and only liked by their fans, all of their core fans will be gone. 247, Snap Shoot, and Lie Again are getting better responses than their title track, enough said. If they have any idea what's going on, please continue the fresh young concept that the public and core fans want...

3. [+127, -2] I'm a big fan and I just don't know... I think it's hard to expect better from their digital sales anymore. I guess they're doing what they want.

4. [+77, -0] If you're an idol, you must do the music you want only after you gain public recognition ㅋㅋㅋㅋ Oh My was really good, though...

5. [+68, -3] I'm a really big fan but I'm tired ㅋㅋㅋㅋ No matter how good the song is, the result is always the same. They've been on a wrong path since Home and Hit. They were fine during Pretty U, Don't Wanna Cry, and Clap. But as the members age and keep releasing dark songs like this, their core fans left the fandom and their digital sales hit the bottom. It's useless to wait for their digitals to go up. I think this is the limit of their digital sales.

6. [+67, -1] People say it's because of the members' age but it's not like their age is bigger than the average age of idols. I don't understand why they're giving up their fresh young concept voluntarily. If they kept up with the fresh young concept until people recognized the concept as Seventeen's, they could've became so much more popular... The fans of fresh young concept are getting tired and so am I ㅠㅠ

7. [+64, -6] Isn't Home a really good song, though? Personally, it's one of Seventeen's top 3 songs along with 20 and A-TEEN.

8. [+59, -0] The only idol that my older brother knows is Twice, but he knows Don't Wanna Cry, Pretty U, and Very Nice. In other words, Seventeen used to have very big public recognition. I'm not saying that they don't have it anymore, I'm saying they were bigger before.

9. [+42, -0] When S.Coups went for tarot reading, the person told him to never give up on the fresh young concept. Why did they... They were fine until Don't Wanna Cry, but Clap was such a bad song and their hair colors and makeup were such a mess. But the members did say they've wanted to do a dark concept, not the fresh young concept.

10. [+41, -0] Honestly, I listened to their title track once but didn't want to listen to it again. Their new song is so messy. As a fan, I'm happy to see that they're doing the music they want to do but I can't help but feel sad. Daesang is already gone and I don't even think they can win a bonsang...

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Seventeen's episode on 'Knowing Brothers' gets the lowest ratings this year

Seventeen's episode got 3% ratings, which is the first time in a year

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Pann: Ratings of yesterday's Knowing Brothers which was said to be legendarily boring

1. [+320, -6] It's random but is Yoo Jae Suk ever going to guest on Knowing Brothers? The ratings are gonna be no joke.

2. [+295, -11] The program members aren't as hyper when they don't know the guests well. People might know Seventeen as a group but not the individual members.

3. [+237, -52] I'm sure a lot of people didn't watch it because Seventeen is the guest.

4. [+186, -7] It's not just the boring part that made the ratings hit low. A lot of people skipped the episode because it's a boy group. Besides, it's the boy group with the biggest number of members so far on the show. Do you think people would look forward to that? Those who have never seen Seventeen must've found it too chaotic. Yesterday's episode wasn't enough to pull out each member's charm, either.

5. [+155, -83] EXO and Wanna One's episodes got over 5% ratings. Of course, 1st tier groups will be 1st tier.

6. [+133, -43] Am I the only one who laughed at Lee Soo Geun and Seungkwan's rap ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

7. [+112, -80] Who are they?

8. [+109, -35] As soon as I saw a bunch of male idols, I turned it off.

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OP on Twitter says their flight was delayed because of Seventeen

"I got on the same plane with a boy group in Okinawa yesterday. I don't know the reason but because of that boy group, the flight was delayed for an hour. The announcement said we had to wait because "there are passengers who checked in but didn't get on the plane". They showed up later with their faces covered and went straight to business seats. Some staff members sat on economy seats. Some passengers complained and asked why we had to take the inconvenience for them. I won't say anything if this was a situation where it had to be delayed no matter who it was. But if this was special treatment for celebrities, I'll be very baffled. If you want to use the plane according to your own schedule, buy your own."

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Pann: Idols who were a nuisance to a flight

1. [+382, -16] The plane would've just taken off if it was non-celebrities, so funny. Celebrities must be happy with all these special treatments~

2. [+372, -8] An hour? Are they crazy? It's even funnier that the flight agency waited for them.

3. [+333, -11] So many people had to wait for an hour just for 13 idols?

4. [+195, -3] They're only getting this much of hate because they're not popular. If it was a 1st tier group, it would've been a top post within 3 hours with more than 1k likes and with much more hate ㅋㅋㅋ

5. [+167, -9] It's a special treatment. I used to be a flight attendant. In the airport, you can see ground staffs running around and shouting names. That's for finding passengers who checked in but didn't get on the plane and are still shopping around in duty-free shops. The ground staffs have to run around a lot and even have to make calls to find them. But waiting for an hour instead of finding them early? That's a special treatment. If they don't get on the plane, the plane can't take off.

6. [+163, -1] If they didn't check in, they're just no-show passengers so the flight would've taken off without them. But if the plane had to wait for an hour, it means the idols checked in, went through the customs, checked in their luggages, and were in the duty-free area. What was their reason for being late, then?

7. [+146, -4] If they had to wait, it means the idols went through the customs and were in the duty-free area. How can they just hang around and disturb others by being late? Nugus causing trouble.

8. [+115, -3] I read OP's tweets. Apparently, the flight was already delayed for 30 minutes and it was delayed by another hour because of Seventeen. How can the passengers not be pissed off at this?

9. [+91, -5] Due to security reasons, if someone went through the customs and didn't get on the plane, the plane can never take off no matter who it is. It's because someone might put explosive stuff in their checked in luggage and avoid the plane. If this is true, the idols are at fault for being late for no reason.

10. [+85, -1] Wow, if I were one of the passengers, I would've been f*cking pissed off ㅋㅋㅋ

11. [+73, -0] Some people say it's not Seventeen because Seventeen was departing and the OP was arriving, but the OP said they were arriving to Incheon from Okinawa and Seventeen also left Okinawa on the 17th and arrived in Incheon. In the same week, there's another boy group who performed in Okinawa but their flight date is different. Seventeen is the only group who flew to Incheon from Okinawa on that date.

12. [+68, -0] Are they crazy? They checked in and everything but they kept hanging around while knowing that their plane was getting delayed for them.

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Ini Kesulitan yang Dialami SEVENTEEN Karena Punya Banyak Anggota

Boy grup rookie SEVENTEEN mengungkapkan kesulitan yang mereka alami karena mempunyai banyak anggota.

Baru-baru ini majalah Singles merilis hasil pemotretan dan wawancara mereka bersama anggota SEVENTEEN.

Dalam wawancara ini, SEVENTEEN yang memiliki 13 anggota ditanyakan apa keuntungan dan kesulitan yang mereka alami karena memiliki banyak anggota.

Mengenai keuntungannya, anggota menjawab, "Kami bisa mencoba banyak macam formasi di atas panggung. Kami bisa saja menjadi penyanyi ataupun menjadi penari latar."

Sedangkan kesulitan yang harus mereka alami, "Tentu saja ada hal yang membuat tidak nyaman," ujar S.Coups. "Kami semua akan menghabiskan waktu yang lama hanya untuk mandi dan makan. Tapi karena kami terus bersama, kami akhirnya terbiasa dengan hal ini."

Di dalam foto bersama Singles, anggota SEVENTEEN tampil begitu kasual dengan penampilan mereka yang keren dan tampan. Anggota SEVENTEEN membentuk beberapa grup untuk menunjukkan pose mereka bersama-sama.

Belum lama ini SEVENTEEN melangsungkan comeback dengan full album pertama yang bertajuk 'Love & Letter'. SEVENTEEN saat ini juga sedang melakukan promosi di program musik dengan lagu 'Pretty U'. (www.kpopchart.net)

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Diantara Seleb Wanita, Anggota Seventeen Ini Jadi Pemilik Bob Hairstyle Terbaik!

Gaya rambut seleher atau yang biasa dikenal bob belakangan memang tengah populer di Korea, khususnya di kalangan para selebriti.

Belum lama ini salah satu media di Korea menggelar polling menarik untuk memilih selebriti dengan gaya rambut bob terbaik.

Hasil dari polling tersebut sungguh mengejutkan. Diantara selebriti wanita yang masuk dalam daftar, salah satu anggota boy grup Seventeen masuk dan menempati urutan teratas.

Dengan perolehan suara sebesar 50.1%, Jeonghan yang sejak awal melakukan promosi dengan rambut selehernya itu berhasil menyita perhatian para pemilih.

Diikuti dengan Hyeri Girl's Day yang popularitasnya dengan gaya rambut bob memanas sejak membintangi drama hits 'Reply 1988' tvN yang memperoleh persentase perolehan suara sebanyak 20%.

Selain itu, juga terdapat beberapa idol K-Pop lainnya seperti Jin Lovelyz, Choa AOA dan lainnya. (www.kpopchart.net)

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[Update: apology] Seventeen Wonwoo's contradictory value with his SNSD comments + his friend's comments

Q) When do you feel that your self-love is strong?

A) Since I was young, my parents taught me to love myself the most. For example, when a friend who's not confident with their looks says "I look so-so today", I tell them "That's not true at all" to cheer them up. I'm always confident when it comes to this kind of thing. Even when my face is a bit puffy, I have the mindset of "No, I'm the best."

Yuri & Hyoyeon answered "yes" to the question "Have you ever fell for your own reflection in the mirror?"

Wonwoo posted the screencap with the title "That's crazy... They said they fell for their own reflections."

His friend commented:

- Why are you posting these?

- Hey, I think you can stop it now

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Instiz [1] [2]: Seventeen Wonwoo's contradictory value on looks

- As a long-term fan of SNSD, I'm so pissed off about this. What pisses me off more is comments like "It's because he was in grade 6" "He was young" "He didn't know anything"

- His interview is recent and his comments were when he was 13. He had enough time to change his thoughts and reflect.

- He's obviously taking care of his image

- I hope he doesn't greet Tiffany ㅠㅠ It boils my blood to think that he could be like "sunbae-nim~" with a smile

- What we want isn't a feedback, we want an apology from Wonwoo

- Wonwoo was 13 and SNSD members were 18, 19, 20. He wasn't the only one who was young.

- That's a great friend

- There's also a well-mannered kid like the friend. What kind of a nonsense is "all elementary school students are immature"?

- Now you can't generalize elementary school kids

- The friend is normal ㅋㅋㅋㅋ I don't understand why Wonwoo kept posting hateful posts of SNSD after reading his friend's comments

Hello, I'm Wonwoo

I first want to apologize to everyone who was hurt by this controversy.

Rather than coming up with an excuse that it was a mistake at a young age and something I don't remember, I want to apologize, admit my fault, and be punished.

They were written when I was young, but it doesn't change the fact that I was the one who wrote them. I'm sorry to SNSD sunbae-nims, SNSD's fans, and Carats. I'm also sorry to my fellow members who worked hard to be Seventeen.

I was very immature. I took celebrities lightly and I didn't think my careless words could hurt people. When I became a middle school student, I became a trainee for Seventeen and that's when I learned about the pressure to be someone who performs on the stage. After learning about how many people it took for one singer to perform and how performers feel as I promoted in Seventeen, I learned what it means to be on the stage. I learned that SNSD sunbae-nims' spot is a big achievement and I respected them. Also, with the love I get from fans, I learned that I have to be very responsible for this and how one comment can affect the celebrity's feelings. I'm reflecting my wrongdoing.

I can't dare to ask to forgive me. But I'm reflecting endlessly and I want to apologize to SNSD sunbae-nims. My thoughtless posts were definitely not right and it could hurt anyone. I can't lift my head up because I'm very sorry.

I will try not to disappoint anymore. I will read all criticisms and advises towards my immature behavior and I won't forget them. Please teach me more in the future.

I apologize once again. I'm sorry.

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Instiz: SNSD insult controversy Seventeen Wonwoo's hand-written apology + company's feedback

- Yeah... He was young...

- I'm glad he gave a feedback. I hope he reflects and be more careful

- He wrote well but it's a terrible writing. It's hard to read.

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Comparing stage sets of Seventeen, Lovelyz, and Twice on Inkigayo

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Pann: Comparing the three comeback stage sets on Inkigayo

1. [+129, -2] Seventeen kids still managed to play a piano and performed well ㅎㅎ

2. [+121, -1] Guys, the stage is paid by the companies... Fucking Pledis, they should've spent more money since it was a comeback stage...

3. [+74, -2] The picture doesn't show but Lovelyz's stage was nice. But Seventeen's stage was so poorly done.

4. [+45, -1] Lovelyz's stage had a lot of decorations like stars. Meanwhile Seventeen...

5. [+42, -1] It's done by the companies

6. [+34, -1] Seventeen's stage is was so mean... They only displayed pictures

7. [+26, -0] I was wondering why Twice's stages on KBS, MBC, and SBS were so pretty. So it's done by JYP ㅋㅋㅋㅋ Their stages were pretty.

8. [+26, -3] Twice = JYP

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Vernon's ex-girlfriend back in middle school

"A guy in my school said his noona dated Vernon. I didn't believe him but I got shocked when I saw this on Facebook today. As Seventeen fans would know, it's the ch- middle school Vernon went to."

Red: Vernon's ex

Blue: Her friends

Feb 12, 2012

Ex's status: "100 days"

Friend: "Congrats~"

Ex: "Thank you. Fortunately, me and Hansol contacted each other again."

Friend: "Grats grats"

Ex: "Thank you ㅋㅋ"

Friend: "Congrats~~"

Ex: "Thank you unnie"

Friend: "I envy you ㅋㅋ"

Friend: "I know right, I really do too ㅋ"

Ex: "ㅋㅋ That's right, be jealous, kids"

Friend: "What ㅋㅋㅋㅋ Seriously ㅋㅋ"

Friend: "Wow, 100 days? Was it yesterday?"

Friend: "Hope you break up today -_- Tomorrow, Choi Hansol won't get any chocolate."

Feb 14, 2014

Friend wrote on ex's timeline: "Can I be friends with Hansol? Will he decline my request..."

Ex: "You can ㅋㅋㅋㅋ You don't have to ask me"

Friend: "Yay ㅋㅋ"

Ex: "ㅋㅋㅋㅋ It's Hansol's birthday this week"

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Video posted by her on Dec 27, 2011:

Pann: Seventeen Vernon's non-celebrity girlfriend

1. [+44, -1] So she's the one that Hansol dated for a year... Did she save a country in her previous life... Look at his visual when he was in grade 7... You're so handsome, Hansol-ah...

2. [+37, -0] Fans already know that Hansol had a girlfriend in middle school

3. [+32, -0] Is she the only ex of Hansol ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

4. [+18, -1] She seems nice but her spelling errors... yikes

5. [+16, -0] I knew about it. She must be nice also... Hansol really cares about people's personalities. They dated for a year, she must be super nice. I envy her ㅠㅠ

6. [+15, -0] So cute... I haven't even dated anyone, but that young boy... ㅠㅠ

7. [+11, -0] So she's the only ex-girlfriend of Hansol...

8. [+8, -1] Her spelling errors are so annoying. I get goosebumps to think of my girlfriend writing like that ㅠㅠ

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Ratings of Lovelyz, Seventeen, and Twice on Melon get terrorized

Lovelyz's 'A New Triology' has 3.2 rating out of 5
3 is an unusually low rating on Melon

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Pann: Lovelyz's rating got fucking terrorized

1. [+54, -7] I really hate rating terrors. Not just Lovelyz, but the ratings of other two groups that also had a comeback are decreasing as well ㅋㅋㅋㅋ Please rate them after you listen to their songs. Don't rate them terribly just because you don't like the groups.

2. [+34, -0] The rating terror is too much. I'm a Twice fan so I listened to the song as soon as it was released at 12, but the rating was already 3.7 before I finished the song ㅋㅋ

3. [+29, -0] The three groups all have ratings of 3 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

4. [+14, -0] The three groups all have bad ratings, it means that the fans of each group are terrorizing each other's ratings.

5. [+14, -0] The three groups have ratings of 3 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ I don't know who's doing this but please do after listening to the songs.

6. [+9, -0] Rating terrors towards idols are no joke...

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Seventeen Berpesta dan Seru-seruan di MV Comeback 'Pretty U'

Seventeen akhirnya comeback dengan MV 'Pretty U'.

Pada tanggal 24 April, Seventeen terlebih dahulu menggelar showcase mereka pada sore hari. Dalam showcase tersebut anggota Seventeen telah menampilkan lagu utama mereka dalam album 'Love & Letter' yang berjudul 'Pretty U'.

Pada malam hari ini, Seventeen akhirnya merilis MV untuk lagu 'Pretty U' tersebut. Ini menjadi comeback pertama Seventeen pada tahun 2016 ini setelah terakhir merilis lagu hits mereka berjudul 'Mansae' pada akhir 2015.

Seventeen juga secara resmi telah merilis full album pertama mereka bertajuk 'Love & Letter'. Dalam album ini terdapat 10 lagu yaitu 'Swept Away','Thumbs Up', 'You're Pretty', 'Very Popular', 'Popular Song', 'Say Yes', 'Swept Away' dan 'Love Letter'.

Langsung saja kita lihat MV 'Pretty U' Seventeen pada video dibawah ini. (www.kpopchart.net)

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Anggota SEVENTEEN Seru-Seruan di Teaser MV 'Pretty U'

SEVENTEEN akhirnya merilis teaser untuk musik video comeback mereka yang bertajuk 'Pretty U'.

Teaser musik video tersebut dirilis melalui channel Youtube resmi SEVENTEEN pada dini hari 23 April.

Dalam teaser musik video ini, kita bisa melihat adegan seru-seruan dari anggota SEVENTEEN. Anggota terlihat bersenang-senang saat memainkan bowling, berlarian, menggunakan mobil dan masih banyak lagi.

Selain itu para penggemar juga akan disuguhkan dengan cuplikan lagu 'Pretty U' yang terdengar begitu upbeat. Pastinya membuat para penggemar semakin tidak sabar untuk menantikan comeback boy grup yang satu ini.

SEVENTEEN baru akan merilis album 'Love & Letter' dan musik video 'Pretty U' pada 25 April nanti.

Sebelum itu, simak teaser musik videonya berikut! (www.kpopchart.net)

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Anggota SEVENTEEN Berubah Jadi Puzzle di Video Teaser 'Love & Letter'

Anggota SEVENTEEN menggoda para penggemar dengan merilis video teaser masing-masing anggota.

Para penggemar pastinya sudah tidak sabar menantikan comeback boy grup SEVENTEEN yang hanya tinggal beberapa hari lagi.

Menjelang comeback mereka dengan full album pertama yang bertajuk 'Love & Letter', para penggemar mendapatkan video teaser dari masing-masing anggota.

Dalam video teaser ini, masing-masing anggota SEVENTEEN akan menunjukkan berbagai pose dengan tema video berbentuk puzzle. Anggota juga menunjukkan penampilan mereka yang tampan dengan konsep yang berbeda dari comeback sebelumnya.

Rencananya SEVENTEEN akan melangsungkan comeback pada 25 April mendatang dengan full album pertama 'Love & Letter' sejak debut pada tahun lalu.

Baru pada 27 April, SEVENTEEN akan melangsungkan comeback stage dengan tampil di atas panggung 'Show Champion'.

Tonton video teaser masing-masing anggota SEVENTEEN di bawah ini! (www.kpopchart.net)

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Seventeen Mingyu's fansite shuts down after he gives away his gifts

"I finished setting up Mingyu's birthday advertisement at Konkuk University Station~ Please pay a lot of attention~ #Mingyu #Seventeen"

"Happy birthday Mingyu~ I hope you have a good one #Mingyu #Seventeen"

The admin did a subway ad + gave loads of brand gifts for Mingyu's birthday

She closed her fansite however

"It's been three times already. I'm so speechless. He used to use all gifts regardless of their prices but now he's giving them away. Why?"

Pictures of his gifts being used by members & his sister:

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Instiz: Seventeen fansite shuts down because birthday gifts were given to others

- I'd be upset, too. It's not some cheap gift, she prepared so much for a birthday but he gave them away so easily.

- She has the right to be mad as the giver, we can't complain

- I live in a dorm so I can say that my roommates' clothes are mine and my clothes are my roommates' ㅋㅋ

- I can understand sharing them with members since they live together but the case of his sister could be upsetting. It's the third time already...

- If I give my boyfriend clothes and I see his brother wearing it, I'd be very upset...

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Vernon SEVENTEEN dan Pledis Girlz Kolaborasi di Lagu 'Sickness'

Vernon SEVENTEEN dan Pledis Girlz berkolaborasi dalam lagu yang berjudul 'Sickness'.

Lagu tersebut dirilis secara online pada hari ini 23 Maret, melalui berbagai situs penyedia musik di Korea.

'Sickness' merupakan sebuah lagu OST dari webtoon populer berjudul 'Love Revolution'. Lagu ini akan diputarkan sebagai musik latar, saat kita membaca kisah dari karakter utama pada webtoon ini.

Lewat lagu ini, Vernon menunjukkan kemampuan rap yang powerful, dengan lirik yang penuh makna. Dipadukan dengan vokal mengagumkan dari anggota Pledis Girlz, membuat lagu ini semakin nikmat untuk didengarkan.

Belakangan Pledis Girlz mendapatkan popularitas yang besar setelah membintangi program 'Produce 101'. Baru-baru ini juga sudah dirilis akun Twitter resmi mereka, yang hingga saat ini sudah meraih total 8 ribu followers.

Dengarkan lagu kolaborasi Vernon dan anggota Pledis Girlz di bawah ini! (www.kpopchart.net)

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SEVENTEEN Siap Bersaing Dengan Deretan Boy Grup yang Comeback Bulan April

SEVENTEEN umumkan akan comeback bulan April.

Sepertinya bulan April merupakan bulan dari kemeriahan para boy grup yang akan segera comeback. Penggemar harus bersiap-siap dengan deretan boy grup yang comeback pada bulan tersebut.

Sebut saja  Block B, BToB, VIXX, CNBLUE, HISTORY, dan DAY6 yang telah lebih dulu mengumumkan comeback mereka pada akhir Maret hingga awal April mendatang.

Kini salah satu grup rookie terbaik tahun lalu yaitu SEVENTEEN juga akan comeback dengan full album pertama mereka setelah debut.

Wah, semakin tidak sabar ya menantikan comebacknya pelantun lagu 'Mansae' ini. (www.kpopchart.net)

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